Apocalypsis
10/23/2022
The Origins of Halloween
The Origins of Halloween
The All American Holiday (From the tract.)
The Date.
Pope Gregory III (d 741) moved All saints Day from May 13th to November 1st to coincide with the dedication of a new cathedral. Of course the evening vigil was celebrated on October 31st hence All Hallows Eve or Hallowe'en.
The Dead
In 997 St. Odillo of Cluny, S. France, added a feast of All Souls. (faithful departed in heaven and purgatory) However, the Irish wondered about those in hell. They thought that the damned might cause trouble if they weren't remembered. So, at least in Ireland, ALL the dead were remembered even though "All Damned Day" was never allowed in the church calendar.
The Costumes
In the 14th and 15th centuries the French started "The Dance Macabre" which was an artistic reminder of their own mortality at a time when the Bubonic Plague was sweeping their country. (Europe lost half her population.) To do this dance, held on All Soul's day, November 2nd, they dressed up in ghoulish costumes. In North America in the 1700s, the French and Irish settlers began to intermarry thus the two costumes were blended.
Trick or Treat
During the 1500s through the 1700s in Protestant England, Catholics were persecuted and many martyred. (It was a capitol offense for a priest to say Mass.)
One of their attempted uprisings against their oppressors backfired when Guy Fawkes, the man guarding the gunpowder, meant to blow up King James I, was captured and hanged.
So November 5th became a great celebration for the Protestants in England (to this day). During that period, bands of revelers would visit Catholics in the dead of night, dressed up in masks, demanding beer and cakes for their celebration. Thus "trick or treat".
Witches and Jack-O-Lanterns
In the late 1800s the greeting card industry tried introducing "The Halloween Card" and since Halloween was already creepy, why not add witches? Also in the 1800s, ill-informed folklorists thought that Halloween was druidic and pagan in origin. Since pagans had used lamps made of turnips (not pumpkins) in their harvest festival, these were added too.
Conclusion
So enjoy being an American, have fun at Halloween but remember its origins; it was a time to remember saints and loved ones, faithful souls who died. Obviously as Christians we stand against witchcraft ("There shall not be found among you any one who...practices divination, a soothsayer, or an augur, or a sorcerer, or a charmer, or a medium, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD ." Deuteronomy 18:10-12) but we can still have wholesome fun and yet teach our children the real meaning of Halloween.
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8/01/2014
What's Wrong with What's Wrong with Rome's Sacrifice of the Mass? By Mike Gendron
The Catholic Church teaches that the Mass is the
same sacrifice that Jesus offered on Calvary's cross. It is said to be the
source and summit of the Catholic life.
Well, here at least
Gendron touches upon authentic Catholic teaching. Pope John Paul the Great
refers to this very paraphrase statement in the opening paragraphs of his
encyclical Ecclesia
de Eucharistia, which is quoted from Vatican II’s Lumen Gentium,
which says “the Eucharistic sacrifice, which is the fount and apex of
the whole Christian life.”
However, there are significant errors when the Mass
is tested with the supreme authority of God's Word.
You will note here
again that Gendron, as do many n-Cs assigns the Bible an authority that it
nowhere lays claim to. Thus, as with all Sola Scriptura arguments it violates
its own premise that everything for Christian life must be found within its
pages. (See the CAF thread It’s
NOT in the Bible, okay?)
1) The sacrifice of the Mass, which is repeated every day, is an outright rejection of the "cross work" of Jesus Christ. He is the perfect High Priest who offered Himself, the perfect sacrifice once, for all sin, for all time. His sacrifice completely paid the eternal debt for sin, totally satisfied divine justice, and finished the work of redemption.
How can this be a
rejection of Christ’s sacrifice? The church teaches us that, as a sacrament
instituted by Christ Himself, it is a miraculous re-presentation of that
same sacrifice offered by Our Lord through the ministry of the priest. Far from
a rejection of it, it is an act of faithful obedience to the command of Jesus
at the last supper when He tells us all “Do this in memory of me”. (See Luke
22:19 & 1st Corinthians 10:16)
2) Sinful Catholic priests can never be exalted to
the position of
mediator between God and man. Jesus Christ, who is God's perfect man and man's perfect God, is the only one qualified to mediate between sinful men and Holy God.
mediator between God and man. Jesus Christ, who is God's perfect man and man's perfect God, is the only one qualified to mediate between sinful men and Holy God.
This is a specious
remark that infers that Catholic priests are greater sinners than Gendron
himself or any other Christian, nor is this what the Catholic Church teaches,
since authentic Catholic teaching is that we are all sinners saved by the grace
and mercy of God through the redemption Jesus’ sacrifice made possible.
If one follows out
Gendron’s misinterpretation of Catholicism and even n-C Christian belief then
no one should ever be able to intercede and pray for anyone else…not even
themselves, which is not at all what the Bible teaches. (See Job 42:10, 2nd
Maccabees 3:1-40, & James 5:16)
If Gendron’s teaching
is correct, then why do so many n-Cs readily intercede for those who respond to
their altar calls. This prayer of intercession is certainly a form of mediation
“between sinful men and Holy God.”
3) The Mass encourages idolatry as Catholics treat the sacramental elements of bread and wine with the honor and veneration that is due only to Jesus Christ. The Eucharist cannot be the physical presence of Jesus because He remains in heaven until His enemies are made His footstool.
This too is an
unscriptural teaching, since 1st Corinthians 11:23-30 says that
anyone who receives the Eucharist while in mortal sin becomes guilty of the
body and blood of the Lord, which flies directly in the face of Gendron’s
inferred teaching that Christian communion is merely symbolic. (See The
Eucharist IS Scriptural) Therefore it cannot be idolatry.
Moreover, one has to wonder how Gendron and anyone else can hold to this
unbiblical position when we know that Our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ, being God,
can do anything He chooses as exemplified by all the miracles documented in the
New Testament.
4) The human nature of Jesus Christ is violated. If His physical body can be present in thousands of places at the same time, it is not a body like ours and Jesus could not be our kinsman redeemer.
The logic here
demonstrates a terrible faithlessness that flies in the face of the very Word
of God. We know that Jesus has a human body just like ours, but yet we also
know that He was seen by many people in many different places after the
resurrection , so again, Gendron grossly misinterprets the very Bible that he
claims as his final authority.
5) It's a deceptive and damning fabrication of the once perfect sacrifice of Jesus Christ. It obscures people from the true meaning and power of the cross. It enslaves hearts and blinds people from the glorious light of the Gospel.
This is nothing more
than Gendron spouting off specious a-C polemics in order to poison the minds of
those who follow him. He cites no scripture here, nor does he cite even a
Catholic teaching that would support this propaganda. Does this anger us as
Catholics? It certainly could, but I believe it is more important to realize
the diabolic nature of such tactics that (sadly) some gullible individuals will
buy into simply because “the preacher says so…”
6) The sacrifice of the Mass keeps Catholics in bondage to their false religion not only in this life, but also in the next. Illegitimate priests are paid stipends for sin offerings to removal souls from the purging fires of a fictitious place called purgatory.
Bondage? I do not
feel in any way enslaved by my Catholic faith, do you? In fact, it has been an
ever increasing blessed freedom in my life. A false religion? How can that be
when we have shown, not only in this discussion, but it many others on Catholic
Answers Forums and my
own Apocalypsis blog
that Mike Gendron does not teach what the Bible actually says, but a gross
misinterpretation and twisting of scriptures. What does the Bible say about
that? 2nd Peter 3: [16]
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are
certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest,
as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction.
The attack on the priesthood is odd and specious, since even
St. Paul speaks of his own ministerial priesthood in Romans 15:16.
No one pays for indulgences…that was Tetzel’s error and was
quashed at the time of the Council of Trent and has not/will never happen
again.
As for Purgatory being fictitious, that is also wrong since
both the Jews and us Catholics share a Biblical and Traditional belief in it.
You can read my research on it in my blog article Biblical
and Jewish Traditional Beliefs About Purgatory
Take care my brothers and sisters in Christ and may the
peace of the Lord be with you always.
Blackie
7/07/2014
Refuting: Mike Gendron's "Who Holds the Keys?"
Quote:
Who Holds the Keys? Written by Mike Gendron. Two thousand years ago Jesus said to Peter, "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loose in heaven." This reference to the "keys of the kingdom" is found only in Matthew 16:19, however the authority to "bind and loose" is given to all the disciples in Matthew 18:18. Many biblical scholars believe the "keys" are symbols representing the authority to govern and minister theocratic principles on earth. However, the interpretation of this verse has been the subject of debate for hundreds of years. |
Quote:
Within the Roman Catholic tradition, doctrines have developed that give the papacy authority to delegate the power to forgive or retain sins through a sacramental system of penance and absolution. The Catholic Encyclopedia states, "The power to confer or withhold forgiveness might well be viewed as the opening and shutting of the gates of heaven." It was used both as "admission to" as well as "excommunication from" the kingdom. The power to "bind and loose" also gives the Popes authority to pronounce doctrinal judgments, making disciplinary decisions in the Church and even canonize saints. This authority and power prescribes what and who Catholics must believe and how and when they must worship. |
However, Gendron here makes a serious error in his teaching because he states that these passages are the only ones that are used to support the Catholic position and that is completely untrue. He also conspicuously fails to note that, along with the above passages, we also have clear scripture that plainly tells us what the pillar and bulwark of the truth is. Note the following: (1st Timothy 3:15) “if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.”
Now we already know that Gendron is an adherent of the unscriptural fundamental doctrinal error of Sola Scriptura, so he naturally ascribes all ultimate authority to the Bible, in spite of the glaring fact that there is no passage of scripture where the Bible lays claim to any such authority. (Aside: See Does the Bible teach that everything that we believe and practice has to be found in its pages? )
Even so, along with the passages from Matthew that he has cited and the one I have offered above, we can see what the Bible actually says about Christian authority. I believe the fact that none of aligns with Gendron’s teaching should cause one some serious pause.
Quote:
The Vatican teaches that Peter's keys have been handed down to his successors throughout the centuries. This has given credence to the papacy to govern the kingdom of God, which they believe, is the Roman Catholic Church. As a result, Peter and his successors are said to have special spiritual powers as Christ's representative on earth. |
Quote:
Proponents of the Roman Catholic tradition point to history as supporting evidence for their interpretation of the keys of the kingdom. However, most of their historical support comes from tradition dating back only the fourth century. |
For extensive discussion and documentation on this point, I offer two excellent articles from Catholic Answers that do indeed offer that early church documentation.
· The Authority of the Pope: Part I
· The Authority of the Pope: Part II
Quote:
An accurate historical and grammatical interpretation must consider the use of terms at the time of the writing of the original text. The concept of the kingdom and the keys must be understood from their usage in the first century. Peter and the disciples understood the kingdom to be the visible rule of Christ over the earth, not the spiritual rule of Christ over His invisible church. The king would rule from Jerusalem, free Israel from political bondage and destroy her enemies. After Israel rejected the offer of the kingdom, Christ began to teach about it from a different perspective. He taught that it would be a mystery, invisible, and progressive. It would be both present and future and could be entered only by regeneration. The kingdom would not be limited to the church, but would work through the church to proclaim the good news of God's redemptive rule. |
Quote:
After the events of Pentecost, Christ's teaching and the indwelling Holy Spirit, gave the disciples a clearer understanding of this kingdom. The real authority of the keys given by Christ is ultimately in the revelation of God's principles from the Scriptures for His theocratic kingdom. Men of God were able to discern the correctness of doctrine and practice using the whole counsel of God (Acts 17:11). |
Catholic Answers has a very good article that deals with this.
Not by Scripture Alone
Quote:
An example of this is found in Luke 11:52, where Jesus denounces the Pharisees for misrepresenting God and the Scriptures with a religion of their own making. As a result they were shutting the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. "Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering." |
Quote:
The ultimate power to open and close the gates of heaven is the Gospel, which "is the power of God for the salvation of all who believe" (Romans 1:16). Peter's first proclamation of the Gospel on the Day of Pentecost, in Acts chapter 2, opened the door of the kingdom to thousands. Since then, the disciples, and all Christians who have succeeded them, have been opening and closing the doors of the kingdom with the Gospel. Those who hear it and believe it are forgiven (loosed) of their sin and enter the kingdom, while those who reject the Gospel remain unforgiven (bound) of their sins and can not enter the kingdom (John 3:36). |
No faithful Catholic would deny what the scriptures he cites say, but Gendron’s misinterpretation flies in the face of the “great commission” passage, also in Matthew 28, where it plainly mandates; [19] Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, [20] teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age."
What would be the point of such a mandate if the church was not the one opening and closing the gates to the kingdom that they have been given the keys to? Obviously Gendron is wrong in his interpretation because we also have the New Testament plainly telling us in Romans 10: [14] But how are men to call upon him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without a preacher? [15] And how can men preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who preach good news!" Gendron has sought to diminish the very scriptural role of the church in the spread of the gospel and to mislead people from seeing that the New Testament supports the Catholic Church, the church founded by Our Blessed lord Jesus Christ, as the authority ordained by Christ Himself.
Quote:
The contrast between the Catholic interpretation of the "keys of the kingdom" and the historical-grammatical interpretation is significant. One centers around the teachings of men and is based on tradition and reason, while the other centers around the Word of God and is based on His revealed will and reign. |
7/05/2014
Refutation: Mike Gendron's "Why Can't Born Again Christians Remain in the Catholic Church?"
Why Can't Born Again Christians Remain in the Catholic
Church?
This is a question we have been asked many times in our 23 years of ministry. |
Then perhaps you should endeavor to give a
correct and Biblical answer, Sir.
We must answer it with the authority of God's Word.
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Okay....let's see this.
When Catholics repent and believe the Gospel of God, they
are born again and the indwelling Holy Spirit will lead them out of spiritual
darkness into the glorious light of Jesus Christ (Mark 1:15; Eph. 1:13-14).
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Alright, here we see the beginning of his usual anti-Catholic propaganda. It assumes several things.
That Catholics do not repent or believe the Gospel of God. Notice here that he does not define what exactly that "Gospel of God" is, but I will offer the following links to relevant articles from my blog.
He infers that we Catholics do not have the indwelling Holy Spirit,
yet I would point out that the holy lifestyles of many devout Catholics flies
right in the face of his inference. Furthermore, we can point to the great
number of documented holy lives of saints such as Francis of Assisi, Maximilian
Kolbe, Elizabeth Seaton, and Pope John XXIII and Pope John Paul II, just to name
a few. Our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ tells us in Matthew 7...
[15] "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. [16] You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? [17] So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. [18] A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. [19] Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. [20] Thus you will know them by their fruits.
[15] "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. [16] You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? [17] So, every sound tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears evil fruit. [18] A sound tree cannot bear evil fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. [19] Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. [20] Thus you will know them by their fruits.
As they abide in God's Word, they will know the truth and
the truth will set them free from religious bondage and deception (John
8:31-32).
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This assumes that faithful Catholics do not read and practice their faith according to the Bible, which is simply untrue. Discussions here on CAF as well as my own personal research indicate that most faithful Catholics are avid Bible readers, know the Bible at least as well as our n-C contemporaries and are well aware of the Biblical basis for our most holy faith.
In many cases, my own included, we have found that the "religious bondage and deception" was not in the Catholic Church, but in the communities that we were previously a part of. (See My Testimony for details) Whether that previous deception and resulting errors was intentional is open to debate because most of those who were involved were quite sincere. I would further assert that if there is any deception from anyone involved in this discussion, that it has been already been proven to be Mr Gendron himself. Please see the following articles on my blog.
- Refuting anti-Catholic tract: "Rome vs The Bible" by Mike Gendron
- Refuting: "Is a Catholic Christian an Oxymoron?"
- Refuting Mike Gendron's attacks on Eucharistic Adoration
- Response to Hard Questions to Ask Good Catholics (By Mike Gendron)
- Refuting Mike Gendron's tract "Are You Being Deceived?"
- Refuting Mike Gendron’s ‘Another Jesus?”
Then they will look for a church that worships God in
Spirit and truth because that is the kind of worshippers God seeks (John
4:24)
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And every faithful
Catholic will respond to what that scripture says with a heartfelt "Amen
and Alleluia!"
But let's move on and see if Gendron is really offering truth. This we do in obedience to the Word of God, which tells us, "but test everything; hold fast what is good, " (1st Thessalonians 5:21)
But let's move on and see if Gendron is really offering truth. This we do in obedience to the Word of God, which tells us, "but test everything; hold fast what is good, " (1st Thessalonians 5:21)
Anyone who says they have been born again, yet refuses to
leave a false religion that deceives people with another gospel, must examine
themselves to see if they have genuine saving faith (2 Cor. 13:5).
Christians are called to walk according to the truth which means, as they become more and more passionate for the truth, they will turn away from any falsehood that stands opposed to God's Word. |
Well then Mr. Gendron it would seem from the list of my articles above that you have been hoisted upon your own petard because it is indeed my own passion for the truth that led me out of the errors of n-C communities and to return to the Catholic faith. Then further, it has been that same passion for the truth which has led me to carefully examine so much of your anti-Catholic propaganda (That you are paid for by the way, while I seek and receive no form of compensation at all. I am merely a simple and faithful Catholic who loves his faith and pursues truth wherever it leads, because our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ said "I am the way, the truth, and the life..." .(See John 14:6)
I would then suggest to all those who follow you and have so far paid you to be deceived by you that they at least follow your very words here one last time, and "turn away from any falsehood that stands opposed to God's Word."
One of Catholicism's false practices is described as a
doctrine of demons in the Bible. Under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit,
the Apostle Paul wrote that some will "depart from the faith by devoting
themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons through the
insincerity of liars whose consciences have been seared who forbid
people to marry" (1 Tim. 4:1-4). Catholicism is the only
religion that names the name of Christ and forbids its clergy to marry,
thus proving that some of its teachings are directly opposed to Scripture.
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This is categorically untrue and here again, we see Gendron deceiving people, both about the Catholic faith, and even the very word of God.
First, the Catholic Church does not forbid its clergy from marrying. There are many married priests in our church from other than the Latin Rite. We are, however, the only Christian people who allow and encourage our clergy to obey the very words of Christ Himself. For a detailed study, see my article, Priestly celibacy is unBiblical. NOT!
Furthermore, since this mandate that you oppose and call a doctrine of demons, comes directly from Christ Himself, I would urge you to be cautious lest you actually find yourself blaspheming a work of the Holy Spirit.
Another reason true converts must leave Catholicism is
that it demands submission of every person's will and intellect to the
bishops' teachings. Catholic bishops are said to be the only authentic
instructors and teachers of the faith, and Catholics are bound to adhere to
their teaching with a religious submission of the mind (Canon Law, 753).
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As usual with Gendron , he rips his quote out of all context in order to further his agenda which is deceive persons into opposing the Catholic faith, so we'll take a look at the actual context and see if what he asserts is accurate and unreasonable.
Can. 747 §1. The Church, to which Christ the Lord has
entrusted the deposit of faith so that with the assistance of the Holy Spirit
it might protect the revealed truth reverently, examine it more closely, and
proclaim and expound it faithfully, has the duty and innate right,
independent of any human power whatsoever, to preach the gospel to all
peoples, also using the means of social communication proper to it.
§2. It belongs to the Church always and everywhere to announce moral principles, even about the social order, and to render judgment concerning any human affairs insofar as the fundamental rights of the human person or the salvation of souls requires it. Can. 748 §1. All persons are bound to seek the truth in those things which regard God and his Church and by virtue of divine law are bound by the obligation and possess the right of embracing and observing the truth which they have come to know. Can. 749 §1. By virtue of his office, the Supreme Pontiff possesses infallibility in teaching when as the supreme pastor and teacher of all the Christian faithful, who strengthens his brothers and sisters in the faith, he proclaims by definitive act that a doctrine of faith or morals is to be held. |
§2. The college of bishops also possesses infallibility
in teaching when the bishops gathered together in an ecumenical council
exercise the magisterium as teachers and judges of faith and morals who
declare for the universal Church that a doctrine of faith or morals is to be
held definitively; or when dispersed throughout the world but preserving the
bond of communion among themselves and with the successor of Peter and
teaching authentically together with the Roman Pontiff matters of faith or
morals, they agree that a particular proposition is to be held definitively.
§3. No doctrine is understood as defined infallibly unless this is manifestly evident. Can. 750 §1. A person must believe with divine and Catholic faith all those things contained in the word of God, written or handed on, that is, in the one deposit of faith entrusted to the Church, and at the same time proposed as divinely revealed either by the solemn magisterium of the Church or by its ordinary and universal magisterium which is manifested by the common adherence of the Christian faithful under the leadership of the sacred magisterium; therefore all are bound to avoid any doctrines whatsoever contrary to them. §2. Each and every thing which is proposed definitively by the magisterium of the Church concerning the doctrine of faith and morals, that is, each and every thing which is required to safeguard reverently and to expound faithfully the same deposit of faith, is also to be firmly embraced and retained; therefore, one who rejects those propositions which are to be held definitively is opposed to the doctrine of the Catholic Church. Can. 751 Heresy is the obstinate denial or obstinate doubt after the reception of baptism of some truth which is to be believed by divine and Catholic faith; apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith; schism is the refusal of submission to the Supreme Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him. Can. 752 Although not an assent of faith, a religious submission of the intellect and will must be given to a doctrine which the Supreme Pontiff or the college of bishops declares concerning faith or morals when they exercise the authentic magisterium, even if they do not intend to proclaim it by definitive act; therefore, the Christian faithful are to take care to avoid those things which do not agree with it. Can. 753 Although the bishops who are in communion with the head and members of the college, whether individually or joined together in conferences of bishops or in particular councils, do not possess infallibility in teaching, they are authentic teachers and instructors of the faith for the Christian faithful entrusted to their care; the Christian faithful are bound to adhere with religious submission of mind to the authentic magisterium of their bishops. Can. 754 All the Christian faithful are obliged to observe the constitutions and decrees which the legitimate authority of the Church issues in order to propose doctrine and to proscribe erroneous opinions, particularly those which the Roman Pontiff or the college of bishops puts forth. |
So, as we can all see from this extensive context (Linked here), Gendron is misleading people with his article. It's nothing new...as you saw in my links above...he does this a lot.
A third reason to leave is that the Word of God
condemns the Catholic clergy for preaching another gospel (Gal. 1:6-9). The
Catholic plan of salvation nullifies God's saving grace by adding works,
sacraments, purgatory and law-keeping to the Gospel.
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Actually, what we have here is a third reason not to listen to this man. again, I offer my article Who REALLY Preaches "A Different Gospel"? which details specific scriptures regarding the plan of salvation, versus what many n-C communities offer. I urge you all to obey the New Testament mandate in 2nd Timothy 2:15 to "Carefully study to present thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth." Please see also How Is A Catholic Saved?
Not to be outdone, Catholic bishops responded by
condemning born again Christians with over 100 anathemas from the Councils of
Trent and Vatican II.
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Here again, Gendron proves himself to be unworthy of our trust in his teaching and preaching as he misstates that the Church was "condemning born again Christians", when in fact it was condemning heretical teachings as per the New Testament.
Here is what CA apologists offer concerning this.
Could
you explain anathema? Does the Church teach that Protestants are anathema
because they don't agree with the Church?
Answer The use of the word anathema has evolved during the history of the Church, and today it means the same thing as excommunication. (The word anathema is no longer officially used.) Because a person must be a Catholic to be anathema (excommunicated) the term does not apply to Protestants. |
So then this in no way applies to n-Cs, so again Gendron is deceiving his readers.
Here too is another much longer and more in depth answer. Does the Church condemn those who disagree with its teachings?
By way of addressing Gendron's inclusion of Purgatory and the sacraments, I'll also include my own research articles on them in refutation.
- Biblical and Jewish Traditional Beliefs About Purgatory
- "I Find No Sacraments In the Bible" he said.
Originally
Posted by A fellow Catholic
In
addition to what you pointed out, if I am not mistaken, Vatican II pronounced
no anathema whatsoever, so that is yet another reason to distrust what he
says.
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I hadn't thought of that,
but I believe you're right! Thank you!
So, the question to any and all of Mike Gendron's church members, supporters, and those who believe what he teaches, is...If he is wrong on all these points, both about what the Catholic Church actually teaches and the about what the Word of God says, then how must one respond to this reality?
So, the question to any and all of Mike Gendron's church members, supporters, and those who believe what he teaches, is...If he is wrong on all these points, both about what the Catholic Church actually teaches and the about what the Word of God says, then how must one respond to this reality?
6/18/2014
Insight on the Eucharistic Real Presence from Archbishop Fulton Sheen
A young Wife, who had been taking Instructions for a Year, told the
Writer she could Believe everything in the Faith, except the Eucharist.
Upon inquiring-about her Husband, it was learned that he was in the
Pacific, on Military Duty. In answer to further questions, she admitted
that she Corresponded-with him every Two (2) Days, and that she had his
Photograph before her, in the House.
We argued there was nothing Wanting-for Perfect Happiness. What more could she Want, than the Constant-Memory of him, through the Photograph and a Written-communication, in which Heart poured-out-to Heart. But, she Protested that she could never be Truly Happy, except-through Union (1)-with her Husband.
But, it was retorted, if Human Love craves Oneness (1), shall not Divine Love? If Husband and Wife seek-to-be One (1) in the Flesh, shall not the Christian and Christ crave-for that Oneness (1) with One-another? The Memory of the Christ Who lived Twenty (20) Centuries ago, the recalling-of His Mercy and Miracles through Memory, the correspondence-with Him by-reading the Scriptures -- all these are Satisfying, but they do not Satisfy Love. There must-be, on the Level-of Grace, something Unitive (1) with Divine Love. Every Heart seeks a Happiness outside it, and since Perfect Love is God, then the Heart-of Man and the Heart-of Christ must, in some-way, Fuse (1). In Human Friendship, the other-Person is Loved as another-Self, or the other-Half of One's Soul. Divine Friendship must have its 'Mutual-Indwelling': "He who dwells-in Love, dwells-in God, and God in him" (1John 4:17). This Aspiration-of the Soul for its Ecstasy is fulfilled-in the Sacrament of the Eucharist.
These are the Sacraments
Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen
We argued there was nothing Wanting-for Perfect Happiness. What more could she Want, than the Constant-Memory of him, through the Photograph and a Written-communication, in which Heart poured-out-to Heart. But, she Protested that she could never be Truly Happy, except-through Union (1)-with her Husband.
But, it was retorted, if Human Love craves Oneness (1), shall not Divine Love? If Husband and Wife seek-to-be One (1) in the Flesh, shall not the Christian and Christ crave-for that Oneness (1) with One-another? The Memory of the Christ Who lived Twenty (20) Centuries ago, the recalling-of His Mercy and Miracles through Memory, the correspondence-with Him by-reading the Scriptures -- all these are Satisfying, but they do not Satisfy Love. There must-be, on the Level-of Grace, something Unitive (1) with Divine Love. Every Heart seeks a Happiness outside it, and since Perfect Love is God, then the Heart-of Man and the Heart-of Christ must, in some-way, Fuse (1). In Human Friendship, the other-Person is Loved as another-Self, or the other-Half of One's Soul. Divine Friendship must have its 'Mutual-Indwelling': "He who dwells-in Love, dwells-in God, and God in him" (1John 4:17). This Aspiration-of the Soul for its Ecstasy is fulfilled-in the Sacrament of the Eucharist.
These are the Sacraments
Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen
9/20/2013
Refuting Mike Gendron's "Do Pope Francis's Remarks Have Prophetic Implications?"
Now let's take his remarks apart so that everyone who sees
this post will have some idea of how to counter his anti-Catholic propaganda.
Do Pope Francis's Remarks Have Prophetic Implications?
Written by Mike Gendron on 20 September 2013.
As Christ is calling His people out of the world with the truth of His Word, Satan is holding people captive with his lies. While Christ is preparing His bride for the wedding feast of the Lamb, Satan is using his harlot to gather all unbelievers together to worship the AntiChrist.
Written by Mike Gendron on 20 September 2013.
As Christ is calling His people out of the world with the truth of His Word, Satan is holding people captive with his lies. While Christ is preparing His bride for the wedding feast of the Lamb, Satan is using his harlot to gather all unbelievers together to worship the AntiChrist.
This is nothing more than vitriolic a-C
polemics without any semblance of Biblical basis. We could use this same kind
of specious allegation against Gendron and pretty much anyone anywhere else
were we willing to stoop this low.
In a wide-ranging interview published Thursday from Jesuit journals, Pope Francis said the church is not to "interfere spiritually" in the lives of gays and lesbians. This comment comes after the explosive comments he made in July about not judging homosexuals. His motivation for such statements is not known, but he appears to be overly tolerant as he suppresses the truth of God's Word. Christians know the only hope for any unredeemed sinner, including homosexuals, is to be lovingly confronted with God's Word and then called to repentance and faith in the Gospel. For the pope to say the church is not to interfere spiritually in the lives of sinners is the same strategy of Satan. It is his goal to keep people from hearing the Word of Christ because he knows the truth with set them free from the power of sin and religious deception (Rom. 10:17; John 8:31).
In a wide-ranging interview published Thursday from Jesuit journals, Pope Francis said the church is not to "interfere spiritually" in the lives of gays and lesbians. This comment comes after the explosive comments he made in July about not judging homosexuals. His motivation for such statements is not known, but he appears to be overly tolerant as he suppresses the truth of God's Word. Christians know the only hope for any unredeemed sinner, including homosexuals, is to be lovingly confronted with God's Word and then called to repentance and faith in the Gospel. For the pope to say the church is not to interfere spiritually in the lives of sinners is the same strategy of Satan. It is his goal to keep people from hearing the Word of Christ because he knows the truth with set them free from the power of sin and religious deception (Rom. 10:17; John 8:31).
This of course flies
completely in the face of the very words of Our Blessed Lord Jesus Christ when
he tells us in Matthew 7:1-2 & Luke 6:37 which is
precisely the message that His Holiness is putting forth to the Church.
Now let's look at His Holiness' exact words and see if he's saying what Gendron alleges.
“We need to proclaim the Gospel on every street corner,” the pope says, “preaching the good news of the kingdom and healing, even with our preaching, every kind of disease and wound. In Buenos Aires I used to receive letters from homosexual persons who are ‘socially wounded’ because they tell me that they feel like the church has always condemned them. But the church does not want to do this. During the return flight from Rio de Janeiro I said that if a homosexual person is of good will and is in search of God, I am no one to judge. By saying this, I said what the catechism says. Religion has the right to express its opinion in the service of the people, but God in creation has set us free: it is not possible to interfere spiritually in the life of a person.
“A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality. I replied with another question: ‘Tell me: when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?’ We must always consider the person. Here we enter into the mystery of the human being. In life, God accompanies persons, and we must accompany them, starting from their situation. It is necessary to accompany them with mercy. When that happens, the Holy Spirit inspires the priest to say the right thing.
Now let's look at His Holiness' exact words and see if he's saying what Gendron alleges.
“We need to proclaim the Gospel on every street corner,” the pope says, “preaching the good news of the kingdom and healing, even with our preaching, every kind of disease and wound. In Buenos Aires I used to receive letters from homosexual persons who are ‘socially wounded’ because they tell me that they feel like the church has always condemned them. But the church does not want to do this. During the return flight from Rio de Janeiro I said that if a homosexual person is of good will and is in search of God, I am no one to judge. By saying this, I said what the catechism says. Religion has the right to express its opinion in the service of the people, but God in creation has set us free: it is not possible to interfere spiritually in the life of a person.
“A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality. I replied with another question: ‘Tell me: when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?’ We must always consider the person. Here we enter into the mystery of the human being. In life, God accompanies persons, and we must accompany them, starting from their situation. It is necessary to accompany them with mercy. When that happens, the Holy Spirit inspires the priest to say the right thing.
Obviously Gendron is lying to
intentionally mislead his readers as to what Pope Francis said and means. In
fact, Gendron nowhere offers a link to the actual interview
so that his readers might see for themselves. I feel that this qualifies and
specious deception on Gendron's part.
By the way, this was the same reason the Catholic Church put the Bible on the list of forbidden books at the Council of Trent.
This is
a straight up lie because no such thing was done by the council of Trent and
the Catholic Church has always sought to make the Bible more available to
people and protect it from corruption. It's easy to find what the council
actually did say about the Bible. DECREE CONCERNING THE EDITION, AND THE USE, OF THE
SACRED BOOKS
When asked if he approves of homosexuality, he replied, "Tell me, when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?' This pope continues to show his ignorance of God's word. All sinners, including homosexuals are condemned by God until they repent and believe His Gospel. Only then is there legal status before the holy judge changed from condemnation to justification.
When asked if he approves of homosexuality, he replied, "Tell me, when God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?' This pope continues to show his ignorance of God's word. All sinners, including homosexuals are condemned by God until they repent and believe His Gospel. Only then is there legal status before the holy judge changed from condemnation to justification.
We've
already seen the context of what His Holiness said and meant, and all I can see
here is that Gendron makes the same Pharisaical allegation against Pope Francis
that we saw in last Sunday's Gospel reading
which is as true today of Pope Francis, as it was of Our Blessed Lord Jesus. “This
man welcomes sinners and eats with them.”
The pope said,
"The dogmatic and moral teachings of the church are not all
equivalent...We have to find a new balance; otherwise even the moral edifice of
the church is likely to fall like a house of cards." Tragically, the false
and fatal gospel of the Roman Catholic religion has no power to overcome the
flagrant immorality of the unregenerate Catholic clergy and their followers.
Quite frankly, I am surprised the Catholic church has not yet fallen like a
house of cards. Catholics should be leaving their religion in droves as they
witness the growing corruption and scandals of pedophile priests preying on
young boys.
Okay, again here we have more specious vitriolic polemics.
It also flies completely in the face of the factual evidence of the literal
host of heroically virtuous lives of saints beginning in the early church
through this very day, and implies that all Catholic clergy are involved in
abuses and sins, while giving n-C clergy a free pass which they obviously do
not deserve. (sex abuse protestant - Google
Search)
As for the remarks about the Catholic gospel being false and fatal, I have answered this allegation before in my blog article Who REALLY Preaches "A Different Gospel"?
To bad for you Mr. Gendron but perhaps the problem is that what you so often condemn, and what has survived and thrived for 2,000 years and the reason for that is the same as the reason that the Jews of Christ's time couldn't stop us as Gamaliel said in Acts 5:39. "but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them. You might even be found opposing God!"
As for the remarks about the Catholic gospel being false and fatal, I have answered this allegation before in my blog article Who REALLY Preaches "A Different Gospel"?
To bad for you Mr. Gendron but perhaps the problem is that what you so often condemn, and what has survived and thrived for 2,000 years and the reason for that is the same as the reason that the Jews of Christ's time couldn't stop us as Gamaliel said in Acts 5:39. "but if it is of God, you will not be able to overthrow them. You might even be found opposing God!"
Sadly, many Catholics ignore it all because of
their fierce loyalty to what they believe is the "one true church"
that will get them to heaven after they are purified in purgatory. This is a
great time to evangelize Catholics since they don't know who or what to
believe. We must point them to Christ and His Word for truth!
This is
just pep talk propaganda to encourage Gendron's misguided and misinformed
followers (and I guess it helps him keep his cash flow up, since without
pushing his anti-Catholic propaganda he'd have to settle for doing what all
Christians are called to do, which is proclaiming the Gospel.
The fact is that more and more faithful Catholics are learning more about our most holy faith and getting the facts for themselves (even as we have been doing right here in this discussion) and thanks be to God for sites like Catholic Answers and their forums and all those faithful Catholics who constantly learn and grow in our Christian faith.
As you have all seen in my response, Gendron lies and misleads his followers about what the Church teaches and about Pope Francis is actually saying, (why else would he not offer citations of source for the things he alleges Pope Francis said and what Trent declared so that people can see it all for themselves?)
The fact is that more and more faithful Catholics are learning more about our most holy faith and getting the facts for themselves (even as we have been doing right here in this discussion) and thanks be to God for sites like Catholic Answers and their forums and all those faithful Catholics who constantly learn and grow in our Christian faith.
As you have all seen in my response, Gendron lies and misleads his followers about what the Church teaches and about Pope Francis is actually saying, (why else would he not offer citations of source for the things he alleges Pope Francis said and what Trent declared so that people can see it all for themselves?)
Pax
Domini sit semper vobiscum
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